Accuracy better than the original here is the latest update from daniels work on making a 51 compatible mouse using an arduino, which was achieved a few weeks ago, but i have been tied up not literally in remote tropical jungle literally for my work. There was one bitbanged project using mega32, other. The mouse came boxed with software to update the popular geos environment which was crying out for mouse support as well as utilities and details to help. This mouse has a ball and encoder wheels for reading the movement and has two buttons. No buttons a boot normally, 51 mode, normal speed right button a boot in joystick mode. This latter was done by soci singular crew he supported this solution in.
These are much faster than the old commodore mouse, and require very little. The commodore 51 this mouse is the second attempt from commodore, providing commodore 8bit users with a mouse with its predecessor being the c 50. Commodore 64 128 computer 51 mouse disassembled and photographed. The obvious answer is an adapter to allow using a modern mouse.
The commodore 51 is a computer mouse made by commodore in 1986, which can be. An amiga mouse, although electrically compatible with the c64, uses the. The commodore 51 is similar in appearance to the mouse supplied with commodore amiga computers of the time, but the two are not mutually compatible. A modern usb mouse can be used when hooked up with savyour. Comprehensive list of games and apps that used 51 mouse.
Commodores paddles were originally intended for the vic20, and few c64 games could take advantage of them. Power64 can use the mouse to emulate a commodore 51 mouse. It is listed in the guinness world records as the highestselling single computer model of all time, with independent estimates placing the number. Atari 2600 style joysticks were supported as well as analog paddles, a light pen, the commodore 51 mouse and a koalapad. Compatible with a 9pin control port of commodore 1286464c. The commo pad is a device that is intended to be used on a commodore 64 computer.
From the outside, the mouse looks the same as the one introduced with the amiga 500. Jul 20, 2018 i think you need a special driver or converter to use a 51 proportional mouse as a proportional mouse on an atari. The 50 joystick mode is directly compatible, though. The resulting modification enabled the commodore 64 to play sound in 6channel stereo with the appropriate software. Faq mssiah cartridge midi hardware and software for the. Iirc, there are quite a few programs that support the mouse on a c128.
Commodores joysticks were often derided because they were not particularly robust, especially for extreme gameplay. Even the cheapest programmer like usbasp compatible will do. With this postthread id like to compile a final comprehensive list of games and apps that use a proper 51 type mouse. In this mode, the left button is the fire button and the right. The 51 is a mouse for the c64 and c128 made by the company commodore. Vintage commodore 64 128 c51 compatible winner m3 mouse with geos disk, book, and box. This area of my website is dedicated to helping commodore 64 users who need to test a certain piece of standard or non standard hardware. Sequencer supports the commodore 51 mouse, amigaatari mouse and joysticks. Feel free to suggest corrections to this list and any additions. Its possible to start up software completely blind but extremely hard. Make offer vintage factory sealed brand new nib commodore mouse 51 for c64c128. Listing includes the 51 mouse only and does not come with software or manuals.
Commodore 64 128 c51 compatible winner m3 mouse geos. Commodore 64 ps2 mouse to 51 mouse adapter connect a cheap pc ps2 mouse to your commodore 64 and take advantage of the mouse enabled software available. Commodore 64 128 51 mouse rev b pushbutton switches. This is the demo disk that comes with the commodore 51 mouse. The operating mode is decided when the computer is switched on. The superrat as depicted in marketing was either the amiga mouse or the commodore 51 which. The amiga mouse has a thinner plug which looks like regular joystick connectors. In joystick mode, the mouse emulates a joystick and can be used with all joystickcompatible software. The earlier 50 was only capable of emulating a digital joystick, by sending rapid 8 directional signals as it was moved, and thus was not very useful. Ill have to start digging up some of this old software, to double check what does, and does not support a mouse. For the c64 and vic20, the adapter will emulate a commodore 51 proportional mouse.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. The commodore 51 mouse for use with the c64c128 product line is a small twobutton device which is connected to either of the joystick ports on the c64c128. Commodore 64 ps2 mouse to 51 mouse adapter, melbourne. I use the same thing i use on the c64, which is a laser mouse with a micromys v3 or 4 adapter. The commodore 64 had documented cartridge port pins which could be crossed to achieve a. Software that can use a 51 mouse includes geos, the faery tale. The commodore 64, also known as the c64, c64, c64, or occasionally cbm 64 or vic64 in sweden, is an 8bit home computer introduced in january 1982 by commodore international. Nov 14, 2009 and usb mouse needs usb host, and usb host needs a lot of hardware software compared to serial. Commodore amiga a500 tank mouse repair left mouse button not working duration. Is the mssiah compatible with my datel midi interface. When it was released very few software packages supported the hardware. Theres not a ton of software written for it, but there are some standouts. Commodore 64 drivers disks, c64 drivers, roms, manuals.
This web page is still under construction it is only a list of 51 software at this point in time. Basically this is the same idea that i put in the general posts for the c64. A modification could be made to older model commodore 64 motherboards to piggyback a secondary sid sound chip to the original sid chip. Atari mice speak through the four joy pins even in proportional mode, while the c64 speaks through pins 5 and 9. This was the package that made the mouse popular on the c64. Connected to the joystick port, it can act like a koalapad, joystick or 51 mouse. The commodore mouse 51 has two buttons on the upper side and a ball on the bottom side. Put both dip switches to the on position for the 51 emulation mode. This section explains the theory of operation of the commodore 51 mouse and suggests ways in which it can be interfaced to applications or software. Lots of programs would suggest mouse besides, or rather in favour of the joystick. Commodore 51 mouse with playstation adapter youtube. Commodores 51 mouse is supported by geos, as are its various ram expansion units.
Commodore produced joystick controllers for the commodore 64, largely compatible with atari joysticks, as well as paddles which were not atari compatible. To extend its usefulness, jan also made it so that could be connected to the usb port of a pc and act like a regular 2button and scroll wheel mouse. Any mouse movement is now translated into joystick signals, so any software. Due to several requests, there is now a separate list for neos mice.
When switching on the computer holding mouse buttons provides different user modes. The user interface of the mssiah sequencer is fully graphical and supports 51 mouse recommended, joystick and amigaatari mice. Commodore 64 128 c51 compatible winner m3 mouse geos desk. Demonstration of commodore 51 proportional mouse emulated with a playstation controller and playstation mouse using geos on a c64. With the commodore eight bit computers, it is too hard to find a good, working 51 mouse, and the amiga mouse is slow, and picks up dust like crazy.
The 51 is supported by geos of course and by some assemblers and editors. Computer mice for sale classifieds on oodle classifieds. Unlike many pieces of proprietary software for the c64 and c128, geos took full advantage of many of the addons and improvements available for these systems. Programs like prophet64, mssiah, geos, godot and others that use a mouse will work without any additional drivers and with the comfort of a modern mouse or trackball. While the commodore 51 mouse looks like an amiga tank in every single design aspect except for the plug, the truth is it is not compatible. Commo pad build your own tabletmousejoystick for your. Mssiah cartridge midi hardware and software for the. Whereas for the c64 there are only few applications where the mouse can be reasonably used, it has found its place next to the keyboard on computer systems pc and mac as an input. The 51 supports two modes, a traditional proportional mouse mode and a joystick emulation mode which can be access by holding the right mouse button while turning on the commodore 64 or 128.
Here youll find new and used hardware, software and accessories, games, educational programs, joysticks, power supplies, cables, books, graphics, public domain and shareware programs and and all sorts of other items which you probably thought werent available anymore. The c64 version of geos incorporates a builtin fast loader, called diskturbo, that significantly increases the speed of drive access on the slow. Commodore 51 mouse for 64 or 128 is in good cosmetic condition and being sold as untested. I also remember a graphics program that supported using a mouse. Yes, you need a monitor or regular tv with c64s rf output. It is listed in the guinness world records as the highestselling single computer model of all time, with independent estimates placing the number sold between 10 and 17 million units. This will let micromys v3 emulate the commodore 51 mouse that was. Switch the mssiah sequencer to midi mode and you now have a 6 track multitimbral c64 synthesizer ready to play next to your midi synthesizers. Or for anyone who just wants to attach a device to their system for actual use. There are demo programs with both source and binary versions for the commodore 64 and commodore 128. Some customers who ordered a superrat actually received the best mouse by best electronics, a mouse fully compatible. Geos is a graphic environment operating system that is designed to work with a mouse.
I use this on with my c64, one with my c128, and one with my amiga a2000 computers. The result is an increase in the ease of using your commodore 128 and a reduction in the use of complicated computer commands. Get the best deals on commodore vintage computer mice and find everything youll need to improve your home office setup at. This will let micromys v3 emulate the commodore 51 mouse that was popular for the c64. The 51 supports two modes, a traditional proportional mouse mode and a joystick emulation mode which can be access by holding the right mouse button while turning on the commodore 64 128. Ps2 mouse adapter for commodore 64 51 mouse hardware. Commodore mouse 51 the mouse is an inputdevice and is mainly used for navigation on graphical user interfaces gui, but also in computer games and applications. Commodores 51 mouse was supported by geos, as were its various ram expansion units.
The commodore 5051 and the pc serial mice have the very same plugs. Commodore had two models of computer mouse, namely the 50 and the 51. There was a serial bus connector for cbm disk drives and printers as well as a datasette tape interface. Commodore amiga mouse amiga 1200, amiga 4000 mouse. The mouse came boxed with software to update the popular geos environment which was crying out for mouse support as well as software and details to help. The first commodore mouse available for the c64 was the 50, which was. If you get a savyour you can use a modern usb mouse. Theres not a ton of software written for it, but there are some standouts including geos. The left button is simulated using by the mac mouse button, the right button can be accessed by holding down shift while clicking.
Get the best deals on commodore vintage computer mice and find. With the introduction of the c64c the software package geos was included. The commodore 64, also known as the c64 or occasionally cbm 64 or vic64 in sweden, is an 8bit home computer introduced in january 1982 by commodore international first shown at the consumer electronics show, in las vegas, january 710. When your commodore 128 is used with a 50 mouse and mouse compatible software, thats all it takes to create pictures and quickly edit documents. I think you need a special driver or converter to use a 51 proportional mouse as a proportional mouse on an atari. This is the setting that prophet64 and mssiah users should choose. Commodore 64 games and software and commodore 128 and 64. The mouse 51 is a mouse made by commodore from 1986, which can directly. Make offer vintage factory sealed brand new nib commodore mouse 51.
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